Thursday, April 23, 2009

Do you see what I see?: The value of art

Thursday is tenatively potpurri day. In browsing high brow literature looking for something to discuss, I happened upon this business letter.

I thought people might find it interesting. Please share your thoughts. I apologize for the length.

Long But Funny funny picture
Laugh your head off at, where there's lots of funny stuff?


csmith said...

I presume you mean thoroughly random?

Well, today I liked this poem - it reminds me of writing:


When you set out for Ithaka
ask that your way be long,
full of adventure, full of instruction.
The Laistrygonians and the Cyclops,
angry Poseidon - do not fear them:
such as these you will never find
as long as your thought is lofty, as long as a rare
emotion touch your spirit and your body.
The Laistrygonians and the Cyclops,
angry Poseidon - you will not meet them
unless you carry them in your soul,
unless your soul raise them up before you.

Ask that your way be long.
At many a Summer dawn to enter
with what gratitude, what joy -
ports seen for the first time;
to stop at Phoenician trading centres,
and to buy good merchandise,
mother of pearl and coral, amber and ebony,
and sensuous perfumes of every kind,
sensuous perfumes as lavishly as you can;
to visit many Egyptian cities,
to gather stores of knowledge from the learned.

Have Ithaka always in your mind.
Your arrival there is what you are destined for.
But don't in the least hurry the journey.
Better it last for years,
so that when you reach the island you are old,
rich with all you have gained on the way,
not expecting Ithaka to give you wealth.
Ithaka gave you a splendid journey.
Without her you would not have set out.
She hasn't anything else to give you.

And if you find her poor, Ithaka hasn't deceived you.
So wise you have become, of such experience,
that already you'll have understood what these Ithakas mean.

Constantine P Cavafy

Kalila said...

A drawing of a spider is about as valuable as your silly human fiat currency, so I don't understand what the problem is.

Aidan said...

My sister Lucy is scared of spiders. I'm going to go draw a big one on her wall.

Ricky said...

I'll thank you to keep paying me in US Dollars, Kalila.

Kalila said...

If you had any sense at all, Ricky, you'd demand gold, land, water rights, or something else of more permanent value than numbers in a computer that can be created at will by your government.

But it's a bargain for me, so I'm happy to oblige.

Anonymous said...

That was so cute. I'm too tired to think of something to say in character so I shall be myself. I'm currently writing an essay on Abjection and it's killing me :(

That was a very welcome break. Thanks Mira!

Here's something much less funny, name Kristeva describing the abject:

What does not respect borders, positions, rules. The in-between, the ambiguous, the composite. The traitor, the liar, the criminal with a good conscience, the shameless rapist, the killer who claims he is a savior...

Anonymous said...

Since I'm procrastinating anyway, are any of you guys on Facebook? I'd love to add you!

DESTINY said...

I am afraid that I am not on Facebook.

This is because, in many ways, I am Facebook.

I will share with you the destiny of this spider painting.

It does go on to be valued at 10,000, but is eventually auctioned off to Donald Trump for 3 times that amount due to competitive bidding.

Sadly, the painting is cursed to cause severe hair loss. Happily, this works very well in Mr. Trump's unfortunate hair situation.

Regardless, it was his Destiny.

DESTINY said...


It is your destiny to go and rest.

Hop to it.


Drawing a big spider on your sister's wall does not end well. I thought you might like to know.

Marenya said...

Hanorja decorate our walls with lots of paintings. But they are very elegant and colorful, not like that spider.

I think it is dishonorable to be so rude about paying a debt.

Christine H said...

Csmith - I love that poem!!! What a lovely interlude on an otherwise not so great day here.

Hey, everyone, would you stop by my blog and vote on my new profile pic?

Mira's rubbing off on me.

Ricky said...

Uh, Destiny? Do you think Kalila is right and I should move out of the dollar? With the recent changes to GASB doing away with mark-to-market, a bank could in theory say that a drawing of a spider really is worth $233.95, whether anyone would pay that much or not.

Would I be better off asking Kalila for water rights to the Colorado River or something? Maybe Brand will be along soon to offer his take on all this.

Goran Njiric said...

Tch. This one is updated so many times it's tacky. What was the bill for? Acupuncture? Chiropractor visit/ Sugar pills, magic waters, or miracle cleaning solutions that failed to deliver, or some other snakeoil that everyone seemed to peddle to each other a century or two ago?

Granted, we still have a lot of that mess now, and new kinds, but really, it's just as bad as lighting a candle in an attempt to get a job.

DESTINY said...


Yes. Drawings of spiders are about to become very valuable. I would get in on the ground floor.

However, it would be even better to have both a drawing of a spider and the Colorado river. Why not diversify?

I hope that is helpful.

Candy said...

Don't know if I can draw a spider - maybe a horse would work better for me? Smaller or larger to match the size of the bill.

Elaine 'still writing' Smith said...

Art - a way to gather dust more creatively than Uncle Will and I go for?

I had an art therapist for a while - she analysed how I stood, reached for, held, used, applied, finished or didn't finish artwork - she made me depressed (arf!)

I'm not trying to attract Scruffy's attention or anything but 'arf' is so much less 'sad' than 'tee hee'!

I think I feel a little better today - weird!


Aidan said...

Hey Des--

Thanks for the heads-up. I knew anyway, but the look on her face was priceless.

(See how I brought it all back around to money?)

Scruffy said...

arf, arf

Christine H said...
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Pure fiction said...

Cs smith,
I loved your poem. It kind of reminded me of this one by Thomas Hardy, which I'm also mad about:

When I set out for Lyonnesse,
A hundred miles away,
The rime was on the spray,
And starlight lit my lonesomeness
When I set out for Lyonnesse
A hundred miles away.

What would bechance at Lyonnesse
While I should sojourn there
No prophet durst declare,
Nor did the wisest wizard guess
What would bechance at Lyonnesse
While I should sojourn there.

When I came back from Lyonnesse
With magic in my eyes,
All marked with mute surmise
My radiance rare and fathomless,
When I came back from Lyonnesse
With magic in my eyes!

I'm with Morphine-moniza on this one tonight (GMT time here) - I'm too tired to think in character right now. I still love this forum though - hats off to Mira.

Rick Daley said...

Thanks, I needed that!

Fin said...


Elaine 'still writing' Smith said...


hand expressed, spirit of each.
Limitless the price.

Nevin said...

Limitless the price?

Oh, dear. I thought the spider art topped out at $233.95 and now it might be limitless?

Kalila said...

Inflation, Nevin. Haven't you been paying attention?

Vicarious said...
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Christine said...


Having to write that paper on abjection would throw me into abject despair.

I hope you were able to finish it today and get it off your shoulders.

Have some ice cream! Since Mira isn't using hers for her profile any more, maybe she'll share some with you.


Mira said...

Boy, the tiredness must be contagious. I'm really tired, too.

But of course, Christine - ice cream for all! Maybe that will perk everyone up. :-)

The poems are beautiful.

Thank you, Pure Fiction - makes me really happy that people are getting something out of being here.

Okay, time for bed.


Aidan said...

I'm an art history major so all art is cool with me.

weird word ver: banes

Sometimes we call the bad demons banes. Weird.