Monday, November 2, 2009

Getting to Know You: Death

Yesterday was Dia de los Muertos, or Day of the Dead. Today is All Souls' Day. This would be a good time, then, to discuss how we feel about death.












If you're undead, how is that working out for you?

If you're mortal, are you afraid of death? Why or why not?















This can be a touchy subject, so we ask that immortals please not mock the concerns of the others.

So how about it? What do you know, or think you know, about the hereafter?

42 comments:

Vic said...

Being undead is a pretty good time. I recommend it.

Ricky said...

I don't think I'd want to be undead or immortal, but it would be nice to have a little more information about how long I'm going to be here. I could plan better.

Kalila said...

I can tell you that, Ricky. I can even give you the exact date of your death. Are you sure you want to know?

Ricky said...

Uh...maybe some other time, Kalila. I'm kind of busy right now. Very busy, in fact...

Kalila said...

That's the problem with you mortals. You think you want to know, but you don't, really.

Ricky said...

How about you just tell me where I'll end up afterwards? That would be a big help.

Kalila said...

Nope. Not telling. You want it all to be a mystery, so that's what you're getting.

For what it's worth, though, none of it is as good or as bad as you think.

Ricky said...

I don't know if that makes me feel any better, but thanks...I guess.

Charles said...

Hmm, Death. When I died, I wasn't expecting it, so I hadn't thought about it. I didn't know what to expect when it happened, except for what I had been told my whole life.

Now, I'm favorable towards death, since I bring it to so many mortals.

Alexander said...

Charles, stop being so creepy.

I never officially died, so I guess I still count as living. (I still have a pulse, so that'd be living right?) Personally, I'm not worried about death. I've lived a long life, met plenty of people, lost plenty of people, and seen plenty of things. To quote one great philosopher, "Death is just the next great adventure."

Kalila said...

Well, I'm just glad death isn't something I have to be concerned about.

Bo said...

Quit lying, djinna.

Folks, Kalila is terrified of death. That's why she hides in a cast-iron bottle on car trips. When she assumes a mortal form, she can die just like a mortal.

Unfortunately, a mortal body is best for achieving her goals. It's fun to watch her try to work around this little problem.

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Anonymous said...

Pshaw! I never have to fear death. I have been saved by the One and when I die it will only get better.

This was Beth Phillips speaking btw . . .

Kendan said...

Death? I'd really rather just not think about it. Frankly, I'm terrified of everything about it. I suppose that's what accidentally slaughtering your entire family can do to you...

Devi Marconi said...

What a heavy subject. I almost didn't know what to say. Been thinking about it all day.

It's not so much that I fear death, but I'm certainly not ready for it. As an atheist, I'm absolutely positive that there is nothing beyond this life... and that's not scary so much as sad. It took the first forty years of my life to get things right, and now that I'm in my seventies, I'm not looking forward to the end.

Marenya said...

Oh, Kaelin!

Ginger said...

The Bible says that God has prepared for us more than we could ever ask or imagine. So, I'm pretty psyched about the afterlife!

Now, the process of dying is another matter. I hope it's quick and painless. I hope I don't get cancer.

Jesse Littleton said...

I wouldn't go so far as to say that I'm an atheist, but I'm definitely an agnostic. Many Hollowites are, in fact - so although we discuss death at times, we never come to any conclusions.

Like Devi, I'm not afraid of dying, but I'm not ready either. Too much life left to live. And while I miss my parents and other long-gone loved ones, I'm fairly sure that I'll never see them again, so I'm in no hurry for my life to end.

Immortality is tempting, for sure. When I was younger, I might've considered becoming a vampire - if that were even possible - but I don't want to be seventy-three forever.

And unlike Ricky, I don't really want any advance knowledge about my death... though unnerving, the mysteries of life are also energizing.

Marenya said...

When we die, our souls pass over the mountains and behind the sun, to the land of our ancestors. We will be with them forever in Heaven.

We do not fear death itself, but like Ginger, we do not cherish the act of dying.

All suffering is brief, however, compared to eternity in the presence of the Perfect Light.

"All things are predetermined, and in the end are right."

So even if we were to know the hour of our death, it would not change anything. We do not desire such knowledge. Only to live honorably for all the days allotted to us under the sun.

Ginger said...

A cast-iron bottle? That doesn't sound too comfortable. Is it padded?

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Kaelin said...

Huh Marenya? That wasn't me. That was Kenden, who I've not met.

It doesn't pay for an assassin to give too much thought to death.

Aidan said...

What Kae's not saying is that if we die, we go back to our maker, Maliquium. We lose our free will and are compelled to serve him.

Not a pretty picture.

I also believe I know when some of you are going to die, but I don't like to talk about it. I've only ever told one person and it didn't do him much good.

Calvin Mertz said...

I'm not afraid to die. I've faced the possibility many times; maybe not without fear, but certainly without regret. I even died for several minutes.

I'm not sure what comes after mortal death. I believe there's something more that just puffing out of existence, but I don't know about heaven or hell. Can't see either one as the sole purpose of my existence.

"The next gret adventure" works for me. I'm sure I won't die old an feeble in a be, and that excites me too. I'm not saying I'm ready to go anytime soon, but when the time comes, I'm sure as hell not lingering here.

Laura Martone said...

I'd like to be a vampire. So would my hubby. Can cats become vampires, too? I sure hope so, 'cause I'd hate to outlive another kitty.

Amy Mertz said...

I died once too. I don't remember it, so I guess I didn't see any bright lights, or beloved family members. Maybe because I had no real family at the time. My parents and brother didn't care, and I'd never met any extended family. It's a mystery why I fought so hard to survive. When you have nothing to live for, death should be a welcome event.

I'm not sure what to believe. Robert believed in God, and heaven, and most of the time he was certain he'd ascend when he died. I hope he was right. I can't image his single flaw wiping out all the good about him.

But I've felt his presence whenever I'm feeling hopeless and desperate for reassurance. Maybe he was right; maybe he's now my guardian angel. I'd like that.

I have things to live for now, people I care about, and who love me. So I don't look forward to death, but, I'm not worried about dissolving into nothingness either. Not while I can still feel Robert.

The death of my family and friends scares me though. I'm not ready to lose anybody I know. It hurts too much.

Charles said...

Well, Laura, I've never tried to turn an animal, but if you're willing to try...

Alexander said...

No Charles, you will not be turning anyone today. Laura, I promise you definitely wouldn't want to be turned by Charles. He has a nasty habit of playing with his food.

Laura Martone said...

Thanks for the warning, Alexander. I don't mind playing with my own food, but I'd prefer to not have the tables turned...

Nutmeg Cross said...

We're late to this discussion. Been on the road the past couple of days...

But, like Jesse, I'd say I'm an agnostic. It's hard not to believe in some sort of Great Spirit when you grow up on a vision quest camp. But I don't have full faith in one either. I'm caught in the in-between.

Indigo Cypress said...

I definitely believe in a Great Spirit - but not in some recognizable form - more like a thread that runs through everything. As for death, well, I don't fear it, but as with others, I don't welcome it yet either. I don't believe in a conscious afterlife - rather I think that our energy just gets reabsorbed into the universe, to be redistributed elsewhere. Hopefully, I'll come back as a tree... maybe a cypress?

Ginger said...

Did anyone see "Curse of the Were-Rabbit?" Now that was a funny movie, about a vampire rabbit that sucked juice out of vegetables.

That would be okay, wouldn't it? The ultimate vampiric vegetarianism.

Ginger said...

I think that re-incarnation would be the worst sort of afterlife. You would never get to rest... just go eternally from one life to another.

Exhausting!

With my luck, I'd end up as a bug.

Laura Martone said...

I'd like to come back as my cat. Sleeps, eats, and plays all day. What a life.

Kalila said...

You're very astute, Laura. Being a cat is nice. I've tried it. Very pleasant. You find out the most amazing things that way because people will say anything in front of a cat.

Laura Martone said...

How true! Good thing Ruby Azazel hasn't figured out how to get a tell-all book deal yet. Oh, the stories should could tell about me!

Perhaps I trust her a little too much. Hmmm...

Olivia Harper said...

Hey, Kalila, speaking of death... I noticed that Bo mentioned something curious yesterday... that, in mortal form, a djinn can die. But what are your chances as a cat? If it's true that cats have nine lives, how would dying as a curious feline affect you? I'm just wondering...

Amy Thompson said...

I wouldn't mind coming back as a cat.

Marenya said...

My apologies, Kaelin.

Welcome, Kenden! I don't think we've met. I'm Marenya. I'm a hawin.

Welcome to CIC!

Kalila said...

Olivia, Bo is a meddling demon who should be ignored.

But yes, a djinn who has taken on mortal form is vulnerable to mortal dangers. I'm skeptical that cats really have nine lives. Whenever I'm in a mortal body, I shift out if I sense that I'm in danger.

Olivia Harper said...

Sorry, Kalila. I'm a bit late in responding - but Michael and I have been out dancing. So much fun!

Although I usually ignore Bo's "meddling" (sorry, Bo!), I thought he might be onto something. I, too, am skeptical about cats' so-called nine lives, but still, it was worth asking. There have been a few times in my life when I could've used the ability to escape my mortal form, but I've been lucky so far.